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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Feb 2013 :  00:34:22 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Has anyone tried these and are they any good:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-95-96-1-5L-V4-HEAD-GASKET-SET-1967-1980-VDL-210-/190792659442?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c6c20f1f2
The most important gaskets seem to be proper Victor Reinz stuff.

I've used a full set of these before, but they're rubbish:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-95-96-FORD-TAUNUS-V4-HEAD-FULL-ENGINE-GASKET-SET-/120403779308?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&

Also tried these, but same poor quality:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-95-96-V4-CYLINDER-HEAD-GASKET-SET-/310496032284?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item484b01761c

Hard to find decent brand sets (Elring, Victor Reinz etc.) these days... Any further tips for good suppliers?

1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V

Tristared
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
186 Posts

Posted - 12 Mar 2013 :  17:09:46 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I bought one this afternoon - I'll let you know...
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 12 Mar 2013 :  22:10:38 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Yes, please do so! Which one did you buy?

PS: the copper gaskets are much delayed, very annoying, I'll email you to hear if you're still interested when I have more info.

1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V
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Woody
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2541 Posts

Posted - 12 Mar 2013 :  22:26:29 Show Profile Reply with Quote
When you say the gaskets are rubbish, can you be more specific?
Identify the failings.
I have a set of the last gaskets but haven't used them yet.
A problem with gaskets which I experienced during the 80's is that depending on how they are stored, they can shrink in damp conditions, and anything with metal will rust.
Not had any problems with head gaskets though.

Edited by - Woody on 12 Mar 2013 22:27:10
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 12 Mar 2013 :  22:49:22 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Blew a head gasket from the middle set within 20,000 miles. Haven't used the head gaskets from the middle set yet, but I got one with the red beading and one without I discovered lately (bought that set a couple of years ago). The fitting of the inlet gaskets from both the middle and the last set is terrible and also all the other paper gaskets from both sets are pretty rough cuts. The set in the top picture looks good though, but haven't tried that one yet.

1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V
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Tristared
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
186 Posts

Posted - 13 Mar 2013 :  10:20:54 Show Profile Reply with Quote
...yes - it was the top one I went for.

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Tristared
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United Kingdom
186 Posts

Posted - 13 Mar 2013 :  14:23:50 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Quick delivery! Here are some pics, maybe someone may recognise the brand, and have experience of using. I actually bought the set for the inlet gasket as I got some NOS head gaskets on eBay. This set was a tenner more, so I thought what the hell.







Have to say the rocker cover gaskets don't look all that, but I've got silicons so... The rest looks good, though.
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melle
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United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 13 Mar 2013 :  18:09:49 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Could you please send me a high resolution scan of the inlet gasket? www.saabv4.com

1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V
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velo200
V4 Beginner

United Kingdom
53 Posts

Posted - 13 Mar 2013 :  19:07:23 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I've just used that set. Inlet gasket is reinforced with metal which made it very difficult to shape to the cylinder heads. Have not filled with coolant yet so don't know if I have any leaks.
WARNING..... do not use the rubber thermostat ring, it is too thick
and the thermostat cover cracks!!(Don't ask how I know)
Head gaskets seemed a little light weight but did have Victor Reinz markings on the gasket material.
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Tristared
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
186 Posts

Posted - 14 Mar 2013 :  14:34:01 Show Profile Reply with Quote
...oh deep joy.

Why didn't I just go to Malbrad? - Theirs don't have any metal in them.

Melle - I don't have a scanner... Sorry.

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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 14 Mar 2013 :  14:39:35 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Ok, thanks.

1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V
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ratty
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
281 Posts

Posted - 15 Mar 2013 :  05:09:24 Show Profile Reply with Quote
The best gasket set is the classic one. It is a copy of Reinz. Nobody makes the inlet gasket correct except for this company.It is an exact copy of the Saab original, except for the copper bit.I think these days it is not necessarily essential as gasket materials have improved a lot over 40 years, just like camshaft design.The Classic Gasket one is good and very good value for money. Beware of other fleabay gasket sets.They don't always fit or do as intended, as I have found to my peril!
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TTruckie
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
317 Posts

Posted - 15 Mar 2013 :  09:08:53 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Ratty

Do you have details and serial numbers etc of where to get a 'Classis set' from

Cheers

TT
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pchristy
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
1788 Posts

Posted - 15 Mar 2013 :  13:08:41 Show Profile Reply with Quote
When I replaced the inlet manifold on my 96, I made the metal bits out of brass shim from a model shop. Look for the K&S metal rack - most good model shops will have it.

Equally, knowing where to get a decent gasket set from would be useful. My first port of call would probably be Malbrads - they always seem to have what I want.

I got my last gasket set of ebay, and found myself having to make extra holes in the head gasket, as they'd blocked off some of the waterways! Just as well I checked.....



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Pete
"Duct tape is like the Force: It has a light side and a dark side, and it binds the Universe together!"
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 15 Mar 2013 :  13:31:46 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hope you haven't opened up too many holes, as only a few should be open to guarantee a correct water flow. These are the holes that should be open:



Many holes in standard head gaskets are redundant (openings only in either heads or deck), god knows why they're there.

1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V
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ratty
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United Kingdom
281 Posts

Posted - 16 Mar 2013 :  05:49:12 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I will come back with all details I have on Monday. Getting Ratty ( the car!) ready for the Torbay trial this Sunday.
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