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Dirtbiker
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
570 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  09:43:52 Show Profile Visit Dirtbiker's Homepage Reply with Quote
Right then, had last Sunday working on the car so here are some pics.
Not sure this will be to everyones taste but I'm sure Simon will like it!







And a question for Simon...

I removed the front Bumpstops to get the springs out. How do they reattach? At the moment I'm steering round bumps in the road to avoid the bottom out clunk!

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surreysi
Starting Member

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  10:19:44 Show Profile Reply with Quote
cool colour.....
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UK_Sub
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  12:20:33 Show Profile Reply with Quote
That looks the business - I want it even more now!!!

How did you remove them - they should be screwed in to the hexagonal turret/shaft running down the centre of the spring - if you've just torn them off, they'll be extremely tricky to glue back on!

If that's the case, then unscrew the base (should be hexagonal) from the shaft - probably using some mulgrips, it can be stuck fast, so some WD40 and blowtorch might come in handy!

This will leave you with a hollow shaft in which you can re-insert the torn-off bumpstop into. It'll fit upside down and you may have to 'tease' it in there with a few well placed hammer blows, but it WILL go in and should stay there - it worked on mine!

You could of course try to re-unite the original metal with the bumpstop, especially as finding a replacement won't be easy. Although you'll probably have to cut the stop in half anyway - to give enough clearance for the suspension.

Hope that all makes sense and hope I haven't made the purists wince too much!

Simon
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2283 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  12:58:04 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
This is how I like 'em.

1970 Saab 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1974 Saab 95V4
1977 Saab 95V4 van conversion project

www.saababerdeen.co.uk
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297 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  14:20:16 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Looks like a V4 front muffler...can't see any V4 badges though or is she a stroker? Whatever, she looks great and I must agree with 'surreysi' the colour is cool. I could look at 95/6 pictures all day....''WHAT's that Love..oh I'll do it now'' got to go.......
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1970V4
V4 Fanatic

USA
313 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2010 :  14:42:35 Show Profile Send 1970V4 an AOL message Reply with Quote
Wow, I really like that look a lot! I may have to go that route with my 96 "rat rod" project. Did you cut the springs?
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Dirtbiker
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
570 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2010 :  12:34:34 Show Profile Visit Dirtbiker's Homepage Reply with Quote
Yep it's a V4 - an early one with the low windscreen.
Cut the springs and then levelled the last bit of coil with (quite a bit of) heat.
They are half the original length.
Simon - yep, I just ripped them off... I couldn't see how they were attached so assumed they were kind of push fitted up into a hole.
Your description does make sense, I'll get onto that when i get a chance but for now i'll be dodging potholes!
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2283 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2010 :  12:49:46 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
How about the camber angle?

1970 Saab 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1974 Saab 95V4
1977 Saab 95V4 van conversion project

www.saababerdeen.co.uk
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Dirtbiker
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
570 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2010 :  13:06:20 Show Profile Visit Dirtbiker's Homepage Reply with Quote
I reckon because it's a double wishbone set up the front wheels move upwards in a line fairly parallel to a perpendicular line up from the ground.
The top wish bone is shorter so this will mean some negative camber is introduced as the wheels move up.
The camber looks fine visually, and actually a bit of negative camber is maybe no bad thing...?
I plan to get it checked out when I get the tracking done. I imagine it will have toed out with the drop...?
Surprisingly it drives great after the drop. It corners like it's on rails yet the springs don't feel overly stiff. It is probably too low for optimum handling - but hey, it looks cool! The only problem is the lack of bump stops which I will sort as soon as I get a chance.
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Dirtbiker
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
570 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2010 :  13:11:13 Show Profile Visit Dirtbiker's Homepage Reply with Quote
Or actually maybe toed in - I guess it depends on the height the rack is mounted. If the steering arms move closer to it as they move upwards then I guess it will toe in?
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Woody
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2379 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2010 :  13:51:19 Show Profile Reply with Quote
The bump stops on your KAW were more than likely circular, and the rubber cone often separates from the steel collar and stud which is screwed into the spring support (upper). The cone is unscrewed with a slip wrench before the spring is compressed for removal. Later cones were bonded to a hex collar which make it easier to do up and undo with a slim adjustable wrench. They often seize. On previous cars the cones separated from the collar and I still have the cones.
As Simon suggests I would expect you might need to cut the cone as with lowered suspension you have less movement available so the cone will bottom more easily and wear out quicker.
See pick below which shows the hex-collared cone with spring washer between mounted on the "Troll".
I have a higher stance due to Rally Special springs & Bilstein shocks and there isn't much movement on the road either.



Edited by - Woody on 24 Oct 2010 21:30:50
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2283 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2010 :  14:27:11 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
If I remember correctly, the thread on the bump stops is standard metric thread. This means you can replace the stops with universal bump stops from your local motor factor or machine shop supplier.



1970 Saab 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1974 Saab 95V4
1977 Saab 95V4 van conversion project

www.saababerdeen.co.uk
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john wyatt
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
1030 Posts

Posted - 05 Nov 2010 :  06:45:32 Show Profile Reply with Quote
My last 96 on the road was dropped in a similar fashion, geometry was never set up thereafter, but it felt great, speedbumps no fun though!, car looks cracking, Melle that is useful I would never have thought to ask a motor factor for these.
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rsimps
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
1616 Posts

Posted - 05 Nov 2010 :  07:43:48 Show Profile Reply with Quote
XP are doing something similar.
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UK_Sub
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United Kingdom
2109 Posts

Posted - 06 Nov 2010 :  22:22:44 Show Profile Reply with Quote
This may prove how much I like this car (built this a couple of years ago)


Edited by - UK_Sub on 07 Nov 2010 10:40:33
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James Ranaldi
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
1357 Posts

Posted - 06 Nov 2010 :  22:46:23 Show Profile Reply with Quote
No Picture Simon ?

Cheers

James
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