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john-saab Administrator
United Kingdom 2679 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 08:32:16
| I have stripped many heads using my very old valve spring compressor (i'm guessing it's 50+ years old hydraulic item) but it failed last week and i'm looking to buy a new one..i borrowed a friends compressor and it just wouldn't compress the springs..it was a Sykes Pickervant compressor as sold by Halfords. What model do you guys use? |
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rsimps V4 Guru
United Kingdom 1616 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 12:32:35
| Mine was probably made in the 30's. Try Burtons, but you normally only need a screw type. You only need to move them a little, then fish the collets out. | |
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72sonett3 V4 Fanatic
Spain 269 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 17:54:01
| quote: ... valve spring compressor ... What model do you guys use?
I've made a tool out of two pieces of tube and a large washer;
Saab/Ford has its own tool;
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jdt V4 Fanatic
United Kingdom 340 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 18:44:33
| You need to loosen the collets first as they get tight in the spring retainer - I use a socket and give a good tap with a hammer to loosen them before using the spring compressor | |
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john-saab Administrator
United Kingdom 2679 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 19:43:21
| The problem was a failing seal in my old hydraulic compressor..i adapted a friends one to work so the rush to find one for this job is off..but i will buy the proper tool if i can find one that is a good fit for the Taunus head. | |
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Woody V4 Guru
United Kingdom 2764 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 20:53:54
| Sykes-Pickavant Model 38500. Bought to accomodate the V4 heads and the side valve Ford Jeep engine. It has an adjustable shoe for variable size valve retainers.
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john-saab Administrator
United Kingdom 2679 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 21:11:11
| That's almost the same as the one I used today but the spring end forks were just a little to small for the spring top plate and the inside groove was a little to narrow to allow the collets to come out with ease..it was also a little to short on the body and the whole thing sat at an awkward angle..it done the job though. Thanks Woody..that's the model i will buy! | |
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Woody V4 Guru
United Kingdom 2764 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 21:52:41
| Here is the shoe in place on the V4 head:-
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john-saab Administrator
United Kingdom 2679 Posts | Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 21:55:33
| That looks to be a perfect fit...the search is on! | |
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Clive H V4 Fanatic
United Kingdom 394 Posts | |
rsimps V4 Guru
United Kingdom 1616 Posts | Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 12:17:40
| I have one like 72sonett3's, but we converted a plug to take a metal rod that holds the valve up on the seat, you can then change a spring on the car with engine in situ. | |
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john-saab Administrator
United Kingdom 2679 Posts | Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 12:53:00
| I used to have a tool that would remove the springs on the car..i would take the spark plug out and insert a length of sash window cord into the bore..about a meter..hand wind the engine until you start to feel resistance and that would mean that the cord had touched the cylinder head..that would stop the valve dropping..the tool was lent out to a "friend" who then vanished without returning it. | |
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72sonett3 V4 Fanatic
Spain 269 Posts | Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 13:01:38
| quote: ...we converted a plug to take a metal rod that holds the valve up on the seat, you can then change a spring on the car with engine in situ.
This is Ford/Saab's tool to do that;
You can do without this tool as long as you take care that the cylinder you are working on has its piston in TDC. The valve can only drop 1/2" or so before touching the piston. I used the compressor to replace the valve stem oil seals, no need to take the heads off the block, valve covers only.
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pchristy V4 Guru
United Kingdom 1790 Posts | Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 13:18:51
| I'm told you can also achieve this by feeding a length of rope down the plug-hole, then turning the engine over until that piston reaches TDC. The rope will stop the valve dropping!
I was given this tip by an old mechanic friend, but I've never tried it!
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john-saab Administrator
United Kingdom 2679 Posts | Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 13:56:28
| quote: Originally posted by pchristy I'm told you can also achieve this by feeding a length of rope down the plug-hole, then turning the engine over until that piston reaches TDC. The rope will stop the valve dropping!
I was given this tip by an old mechanic friend, but I've never tried it!
Ahem...
quote: Originally posted by john-saab .i would take the spark plug out and insert a length of sash window cord into the bore..about a meter..hand wind the engine until you start to feel resistance and that would mean that the cord had touched the cylinder head..that would stop the valve dropping.
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pchristy V4 Guru
United Kingdom 1790 Posts | Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 23:48:13
| I blame it on senile dementia.......!
;)
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