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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Aug 2016 :  19:43:56 Show Profile Reply with Quote
A few pic's for some inspiration. a slight! contrast in finishes between the S/S and my old painted one.
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These are the trial fit piccies. Although, tonight I managed to fit the rear one before the rain stopped play. You may also noticed (there again, you might not :-)) that I've chopped and changed the tail pipe - the speedex just looked a little out of place on a classic car.



Remember - trial fit photo, so the No plate is not staying there. Still thinking of using the square No plate though :-)


I've had bumpers from Harrington before (Beetle) and the quality is excellent. Yes, expensive, but try getting some chromed !!



Edited by - Betsy67 on 25 Aug 2016 19:50:52
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James Ranaldi
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United Kingdom
1357 Posts

Posted - 26 Aug 2016 :  08:23:20 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I like it . . . . .looks extremely good .

What is going on with the clips at the front of the bonnet and the bars over the inner edges of the headlight bezels ?


1968 V4, LHD
1984 99 GL
1992 C900i Convertible
1993 C900 LPT Convertible

Edited by - James Ranaldi on 26 Aug 2016 08:27:09
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Aug 2016 :  12:01:22 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Someone had cut the bonnet pin off,so previous owner put them on. I've since replaced the pin,so I could remove them. Left with 4 self tapper holes then #128528;
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Sep 2016 :  12:18:11 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Clips now removed #128521; and I've found out the bonnet is adjustable on the hinge pins #128512; So it now fits better too.
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James Ranaldi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Sep 2016 :  19:58:24 Show Profile Reply with Quote


1968 V4, LHD
1984 99 GL
1992 C900i Convertible
1993 C900 LPT Convertible
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
260 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2017 :  14:58:48 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Had a great trip Out to Whitby yesterday and unfortunately all was not well with Betsy. We managed to get home without breaking down, which is always a bonus. However, the clutch didn't feel quite right, but as it's mainly dual carriageway and motorway it didn't cause too much problem.
After a brief inspection last night it would appear to be the release arm that now rubbing on the clutch assembly. We have an oil leak too(head gasket?) so this morning I've been getting ready for the engine removal. Everything is now ready for an engine hoist,which I'll have to hire. I've been doing some porting on some spare heads, so these will be going on.
Also found some bodywork issues to sort whilst the motor's out, so things could drag on a while !! Engine bay repaint time too - guess I'm going to be busy !
I'll get some pictures up as things progress.

Edited by - Betsy67 on 05 Feb 2017 15:01:51
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Zagato
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Feb 2017 :  19:45:09 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Gorgeous motor Betsy, don't know how I have missed this thread, more pics, more pics . For me this spec is the nicest of the 96's, best grill, dash interior, badging etc, love it.

What is the ownership history, mileage etc?

Edited by - Zagato on 05 Feb 2017 19:45:52
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
260 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2017 :  09:37:32 Show Profile Reply with Quote
a little work on the exhaust outlet - the Vernier showing the original size. After seeing another thread I've since opened it out a little further to the gasket aperture size. This is probably another Millimetre on the diameter all round.


Also, the Inlet and exhaust ports have had a bit of work too. This is another 'early on' shot and basically highlights what areas I have removed. Quite a bit more work has gone into the heads since then. I think I may have got a little too close to the seats and will probably require a minimal recut. Valve grinding paste may do this, but I will be wanting to run these heads on my current engine a recut is probably best!
I have another motor that I would like to 'tune' on the rebuild. However sticking these heads on the present motor will give me some comparison as to any improvements gained by the porting process.
Although not too clear in the pictures, due to it being untouched. You will see on the R/H side that there is a chunk /lip of casting just below the seat(s) On the inlet this is a 2-3mm reduction on the diameter and creates quite an obstruction. These are the main areas that I've concentrated on removing, and smoothing 'flow'. I have a bit of a worry that this 'chunk' maybe there to create turbulence and aid fuel/air mixing - time will tell on that one!
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
260 Posts

Posted - 08 Feb 2017 :  15:17:55 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Due to a little interlude on the work front, I have quite a lot of time on my hands - Betsy time
During this week I've been finishing the heads. More fine tuning on the porting, because there's always one little bit that you've missed!
I was ready for reassembly today, however a few questions have arisen.

1. Valve stem oil seals:- I have 2 sets from 2 different gasket kits and both appear the same. Having tried one over the valve stem, there is nothing to stop the seal moving with the valve. Should the seal not be 'mated' to the head and the valve slide up and down within the seal?

2. Moving on from assembly. As stated before my intention is to swap the heads over to my current motor (comparison in performance). Which would be best regarding the rocker assembly and pushrods? Do I retain the ones from my motor (in the car at present) and just exchange the heads? Or is it ok to build my ported heads with the parts from them? Then replace as a complete unit.

3. Inlet manifold gasket, copper/no copper
A little premature on this one as I've not removed the heads from the motor in the car as yet. The heads I've been porting on had a copper shim with a small hole on the gaskets. Can you mix and match if the ones on my present motor doesn't have the copper? or should they all have the copper shim?.

All info gratefully received

Edited by - Betsy67 on 08 Feb 2017 15:21:31
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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Feb 2017 :  16:08:49 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
1. They move with the valve, that's how they're designed.

2. I would simply pick the best set. You only know how good they are after taking them apart and cleaning; you can really only then see how badly the shafts are worn (also see the Haynes manual). You'll need to take the rocker assemblies off the old heads anyway if you're re-using the head bolts; one of the bolts on either head is trapped under it in situ (and vice versa when you bench assemble the heads!) Make sure your heads are straight before installing them.

3. See here: www.saab-v4.co.uk/speedball/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29024 I've dismantled quite a few V4s and i've only come across a manifold gasket with brass shims a few weeks ago!

www.saabv4.com
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
260 Posts

Posted - 08 Feb 2017 :  18:38:23 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Thanks Melle.
I did a bit forum trawlling and found a few posts on the stem seals.
Will choose the best of the sets for 'heads'.
I've read your suggested links and I'm now sure things will 'fall into place' once it all starts going back together.
Think it may be easier swapping the heads over whilst the engine is still in the car. The only thing connected at the mo is the speedo cable, so easy access.
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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Feb 2017 :  23:16:15 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
Swapping the heads with the engine in the car should be no problem, on the contrary, it's nice to have the block going nowhere when torquing down the heads.

www.saabv4.com
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
260 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2017 :  16:33:52 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Not really feeling the love or the motivation for things at the moment. However, I managed to get some things done today - namely swapping the cylinder heads over. Not a big job as all the ancillary components had been previously removed.
I have a feeling that this was at sometime a VEGE recon motor (told by previous owner ?)and if so, I'm not too pleased with a few things. Here's why
If you can't see this in the photo, there are some indents in the bore. They must have been there a while and aren't causing any major issues, so there they'll stay. There's also a definite ridge on the bore from the piston rings too. So the other motor will be the one that gets the rebuild.
I did have a thoroughly good decoke and clean whilst there. Here's a picture of the worst of the removed heads


Thank goodness for the forum. I had 2 sets of top end gaskets. True to form (on a previous post) I had 2 head gaskets the same (left & right)in one pack. The others were definitely 'handed' and the same as the ones removed. My luck was in The copper inserts were replaced with the aid of a little superglue to hold them in situ.
All went well and I'm now ready to lift the lump out. My next pictures will be of the dirtiest engine bay floor to grace the pages of the forum !
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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Feb 2017 :  17:58:57 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
Don't forget to clean the pcv valve now you're at it.

Has the engine been stood for a while? It looks like the damage to the cylinder bores has been caused by condensation. VeGe engines are easy to recognise by the way, they have the original engine number ground off and a tag glued in place of it. In my experience they're excellent engines.

www.saabv4.com
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Betsy67
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United Kingdom
260 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2017 :  20:06:57 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Got me on that one - pcv valve ??
Original No looks like it's been ground off and replaced with a bit of a mismatch of No's.
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