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Zagato
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jan 2017 :  21:31:05 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have never bothered with an extinguisher but having seen a couple of 96 engine fires, I couldn,t deal with mine going up in flames so... Have you got one in yours, where is the best place to put it that is discreet but handy.

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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jan 2017 :  22:20:47 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
I have one in the boot, probably not the best place. Keep meaning to mount it on the floor in front of the passenger seat, or perhaps onto the seat base.

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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2017 :  22:07:47 Show Profile Reply with Quote
One behind the drivers seat, and one in the storage bucket by your leg.
Cost is peanuts compared with the cost of your beloved 96.
In the boot is no use. Bound to be locked when you need it. By the time you get the keys out of the ignition, the car could be lost!

Andy

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
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john-saab
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jan 2017 :  20:21:21 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I keep mine in the storage bucket on the drivers side...it sticks out with the loop towards the door so I can grab it while exiting. I also keep several "proper" full sized extinguishers near the workshop door. (C02, powder and water)..I picked them up for free because they were surplus and paid a professional to check and charge them..total cost was 50 and that's money well spent.

'73 96 (Vernon),'74 95 (Veronica)plus 4 other 95's and 2 96's
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Zagato
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jan 2017 :  18:07:27 Show Profile Reply with Quote
It,s the fomoco carb I am especially worried about, will change it for a Webber if funds allow. Thanks for the ideas...

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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jan 2017 :  18:19:26 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
Why are you worried about the Fomoco? I've had the ferrule the fuel hose connects to come out once; no fun in the left lane on the autobahn overtaking lorries with 95mph. Amazing how far the content of the float bowl gets you though. Glued it in with Loctite on the hard shoulder and never had an issue since.

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Zagato
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2017 :  12:38:38 Show Profile Reply with Quote
They have a reputation for causing fires in some quarters. One SAAB mechanic on seeing one always said to swap it out for a Webber. Have to say I have never had a problem with any of mine, perhaps it,s just ones that are not maintained properly... Not that mine ever have been!

Having said that mine does overflow a bit down the overflow pipe but we don,t know why! Used to be a smell of petrol on occasion...




Edited by - Zagato on 15 Jan 2017 12:41:54
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Derek
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Posted - 16 Jan 2017 :  11:45:11 Show Profile Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by melle
Why are you worried about the Fomoco? I've had the ferrule the fuel hose connects to come out once; no fun in the left lane on the autobahn overtaking lorries with 95mph. Amazing how far the content of the float bowl gets you though. Glued it in with Loctite on the hard shoulder and never had an issue since.

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While the car is running down on the fuel in the float chamber the pump is working flat out spraying fuel all over the engine bay. You got lucky but many Reliant Scimitar owners have had their fibreglass cars burnt to the ground. Not a pretty sight at the side of the road. Back then the advice was to Loctite and pin the tube, but knurling the brass and using the Loctite is probably sufficient as long as you use a petrol proof Loctite.
Meanwhile, make sure the fuel hose is looped in such a way as to be pushing the tube back into the carb. That way if it starts to loosen you should spot a leak sooner rather than later, as long as you are a regular visitor under the bonnet.
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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2017 :  16:01:10 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Derek
While the car is running down on the fuel in the float chamber the pump is working flat out spraying fuel all over the engine bay.
There was fuel mist literally everywhere! I first noticed a fuel smell, then it came splashing out from the off side of the bonnet. The whole car was tacky from the fuel, here you can spot some of the remains on the wing:



I'm still happy I very quickly figured what was going on; in my memory it was a question of seconds from smelling fuel, slowing down in the left lane (RH traffic) even more annoying the Audi that was chasing me, squeezing myself between two lorries onto the hard shoulder and opening the bonnet and realising what could have happened. It actually was quite a good rush of adrenaline, only a bit scary afterwards. I think this could happen to any carbed car, not specifically FoMoCos.

That 95 has long gone by the way; I'm told it's rotting in a drive somewhere. Real shame, was a nice car when I had it.

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RhysN
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Feb 2017 :  06:43:32 Show Profile Send RhysN an AOL message Reply with Quote
I would not say that the Weber is any more immune from this, as I lost a Fiat to the exact same thing, with a Weber. Follow the same advie as described above.
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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Feb 2017 :  12:41:20 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
That was my point too! Sorry to hear about your loss, it must be horrible to see your pride and joy burn down.

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Woody
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Feb 2017 :  16:49:40 Show Profile Reply with Quote
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I have a 2lt Foam extinguisher each side in the Troll. Used to have two X 2.5 kg dry powder but they are over 40 yrs old and need re- filling so the foam ones were a better option.

Edited by - Woody on 04 Feb 2017 20:15:52
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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Feb 2017 :  18:18:22 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
That looks like a good place, not sure if you can fit a fire extinguisher next to a stock seat though?

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Woody
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Posted - 04 Feb 2017 :  20:19:13 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Not sure Melle, certainly would need the rake lever in the vertical position. Had an extinguisher in same position on my previous V4 but it would have been a dry powder one so the cylinder girth may have been less.
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melle
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Feb 2017 :  11:06:55 Show Profile Visit melle's Homepage Reply with Quote
I've had to use a fire extinguisher once in my life. It was a dry powder one and I can't recommend it, the stuff is corrosive as hell. Recently some arse emptied a powder extinguisher on my 900 just a week after it had one side resprayed; I don't think I ever gave the car such a good wash before.

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Derek
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Feb 2017 :  12:19:40 Show Profile Reply with Quote
This was just posted to the Yahoo vSAAB forum and I'm sure Eric won't mind it being passed on.

"I was working on my '64 Bullnose for a few hours yesterday, making progress on that dreaded rust, and at 7:10 PM some tar paper undercoating caught fire that I failed to notice for a few precious minutes. The whole underdash was in flames, spread to the headliner and door panels, and the windshield cracked with pieces falling in "tink, tink, tink." I emptied three fire extinguishers to no avail. My son and I were able to pick up the front end (front suspension and drivetrain removed) and roll it out of my barn/workshop just as the firetrucks arrived. It was all over at 7:20 PM. This is the first time anything remotely similar has happened to me in 40 years of welding on cars.

As sick as I feel about it, I'm profoundly thankful that
A) No one got hurt.
B) My son Josh happened to be at home at the time.
C) It didn't catch the barn on fire, a wooden structure built in 1870 with hand-hewn beams.
D) The amazing quickness of the fire department to be on the scene in minutes."

Note: He had THREE extinguishers on hand.
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