| Author |  Topic  | |
PYM35
V4 Beginner
France
97 Posts |  Posted - 26 Mar 2020 : 12:47:36  
| Hi Gents,
I just received this from post :
https://ibb.co/f94mrdR
One good point is that post is working 3 days a week in France.
Second is that I finally received it after a 3 weeks order old.
Well, I plan to pu it on my car this week. Before, I would like to know if :
1) You know this particular product
2) You recommand the equipement of electronic ignition on a SAAB 96.
3) If you use a Strobe and how you use it (as it is not shown in the Haynes book).
Cheers !
PYM |
|
andydeans3
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
2016 Posts | Posted - 26 Mar 2020 : 14:19:51
|
Jean-Yves
I've been using electronic ignition for years.
I can't remember the brand name, but it is the magnetic pick up, type, as opposed to a LED light arrangement.
Absolutely brilliant, I have had no issues.
To use the strobe, first of all mark the timing mark on the lower pulley, (Crankshaft) with a little spot of white paint. mark also the appropriate timing mark on the timing housing, at the number of degrees before top dead centre, that you want to set the timing at.
Can't exactly remember what the timing should be, it'll be in the Haynes manual. Might be 12 degrees from memory
Disconnect the vacuum pipe that runs from the inlet manifold to the distributer, and plug it so that you are not drawing excess air into the inlet manifold.
Connect your strobe to the the ignition line going to cylinder number 1. (the one hidden behind the alternator).
Depending on the type of strobe you have, it may need a 12 volt supply from the battery. Simpler types of strobes, don't need a supply. in my experience the type with it's own 12v supply, is better.
Start the engine, make sure engine revs are not too high, otherwise the centrifugal advance/retard system will come into play. You do not want that.
Shine the strobe at the front pulley, and you should be able to see what the timing is set at. If it is not correct, slacken the bolt that holds the distributer down, and (wearing thick rubber gloves!), turn the distributer forward and back till the timing marks line up with the appropriate timing mark on the timing cover. Tighten the distributer bolt.
Let us know how you get on.
Andy
1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro |  |
|
PYM35
V4 Beginner
France
97 Posts | Posted - 26 Mar 2020 : 14:37:58
| Thanks for this very precise message Andy. I will certainly do so and make pictures in the same time.
Cheers.
PYM | |
|
Derek
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
2191 Posts | Posted - 26 Mar 2020 : 14:41:07
| | If you are happy with the way your engine is running, strobe the car first and note where the strobe light is steady on the markings, note the number of degrees at your normal tick over. After you have fitted the electronic ignition there is often a small difference to the timing. A small twist of the distributer should be enough for you to bring you the timing back to its original setting. | |
|
PYM35
V4 Beginner
France
97 Posts | Posted - 27 Mar 2020 : 15:51:33
| All right, it's done ! But I lost so much time ... And lost myself a few times. Fortunately, it works fine.
Short résumé :
Before I start, I was looking for my cat. I find that he was impatient to start fixing up the SAAB :
https://ibb.co/j3bTFgB
Then, it's start to take pictures to make sure that we are able to come back to initial settings in case there's some issue :
https://ibb.co/yf1BJWv
https://ibb.co/NCfdTBs
https://ibb.co/KLCRm1v
https://ibb.co/28nT4L3
https://ibb.co/28nT4L3
https://ibb.co/0tpZKhX
https://ibb.co/cQQW6yM
When you have the distributor out of the car, it's important to check, when putting it back on the car, that the rotor is facing the mark on the body of the distributor. Then, finding the compression point of cylinder no. 1 was not too difficult to find if you put the car in fourth gear, with a front wheel in the air and turn. You feel the compression of air when the spark plug of cylinder no. 1 is out.
It started at the first attempt. Then, I let the car run 10 minutes, made my set up and it seems ok like this.
Distributor was very dirty.
Seal of the carburator manifold (if I use the right word) was into pieces (see pictures). I have to change it soon. This explains why I have oil leakage here.
Finally it runs very nice, I set up the ignition with my strobe. After a (very) short drive, set up was still ok and car running very nice.
I also found this. Not normal, isn't it ?
https://ibb.co/1r03tVL
A nice day working on the car.
Cheers !
PYM
| |
|
green96v4
V4 Mad
Canada
738 Posts | Posted - 28 Mar 2020 : 11:02:41
| Glad you got the electronic ignition to work, I have the same and it's great (and worry free)
and no you should have rubber bushes for the exhaust (it's a creative solution that you have though....)
They look like this:
 | |
|
christophe
V4 Fanatic
France
227 Posts | Posted - 28 Mar 2020 : 13:10:03
| | I ordered the rubber bushes from Skandix as well as the whole exhaust but these look very much like the ones used on all Renault 4, if this might help. | |
|
PYM35
V4 Beginner
France
97 Posts | Posted - 28 Mar 2020 : 14:25:01
| | That's correct ! I just bought from a R4/R5 company specialist. | |
|
Borstlap
V4 Fanatic
Norway
334 Posts | Posted - 28 Mar 2020 : 21:08:49
| When you use rubber bushings of the type you bought prepare for a hell of a resonance at around 4000 rpm. I guess that is why the alternative was used, to avoid resonance.
Alex | |
|
christophe
V4 Fanatic
France
227 Posts | Posted - 29 Mar 2020 : 10:23:51
| quote:
Originally posted by PYM35
That's correct ! I just bought from a R4/R5 company specialist.
Oscaro has them at 3,49€ each. They also have many parts for the Ford V4 engine. I got the top end gaskets from them and the price was very reasonable. If you need more specific engine parts, Motomobil has most of them. | |
|
PYM35
V4 Beginner
France
97 Posts | Posted - 01 Apr 2020 : 13:33:00
| Hi Gents !
I received yesterday a complete set of engine gaskets as I need to change at least the intake manifold gasket. Question : do I have to make a purge of the cooling system to make this saelant change ?
Cheers.
PYM | |
|
christophe
V4 Fanatic
France
227 Posts | Posted - 03 Apr 2020 : 13:18:21
| | You have to drain most of the coolant before removing the intake manifold. Upon reinstallation, bleed the circuit as usual at the heater core with the heat on. Are you aware that you have to torque the intake manifold three times and in a given sequence? | |
|
PYM35
V4 Beginner
France
97 Posts | Posted - 03 Apr 2020 : 21:23:13
| Hello Christophe,
Merci du tuyau pour les séquences de serrages. Je n'ai pas encore étudié les étapes de la réparation (je dois éplucher la Haynes avant chaque opération sur la SAAB).
Avec le confinement, j'ai beaucoup de temps, mais les pièces mettent également beaucoup de temps à arriver ...@+ | |
|
christophe
V4 Fanatic
France
227 Posts | Posted - 04 Apr 2020 : 14:55:33
| Thanks,Pierre-Yves. I'll keep it in English for our British friends.
I'm afraid I made a slight mistake. The cylinder heads need to be torqued three times, but the intake manifold only takes two. You should have a look at the shop manual on Melle's site as tightening torques vary a little after engine no 91280.
Best of luck and nice week-end to all. | |
|
PYM35
V4 Beginner
France
97 Posts | Posted - 05 Apr 2020 : 13:11:10
| | Thanks Christophe ! You're right, I should stick to english. Nice weekend to all of you ! | |
|
| | Topic | |
Ignition : Retex and others ...
