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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
810 Posts

Posted - 18 Oct 2015 :  23:41:43 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Does anyone have the correct part number for a 1971 coil? I saw a thread from back in August on some discussion (Melle had posted a great article about Bosch coils and the differences in manufacturing quality)



mine has this fitted, but the friend I had over to check everything when we started the engine suggested the spark wasn't that strong (this one was on the car when I took it off the road in 1994) it has part number 0 221 102 068 K12V stamped on it, but I've also seen 0 221 119 026 referenced somewhere.

I'm not even sure if the 068 is correct for the car (someone may have put the incorrect one on the car before I bought it...)

Thanks in advance

Zagato
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
816 Posts

Posted - 19 Oct 2015 :  07:46:09 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I cannot find the coil which comes off my 77 model yet but another coil I have in stock which came off an unknown earlier model has the latter numbers you mention I.e. 0221119026

1977 96L Opal Green
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
4145 Posts

Posted - 19 Oct 2015 :  09:59:55 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure your coil is the correct one for some MYs (not sure if '71 is amongst them), but 0 221 119 026 is the one I've found most on V4s so far. I've not worked out the differences, but in my experience all V4 coils can be replaced with 0 221 119 027 which is widely available and reasonably priced. I think this is the article you refer to green96v4? http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BlueCoil.html

Are you still running points? In that case a weak spark is more likely to be caused by a dying condenser than a broken coil I'd say. Bosch condensers (e.g. 1 237 330 244) are getting thin on the ground and replacements are often of poor quality unfortunately. If you're using Pertronix or the like you may need a different coil, I'm not an expert when it comes to this type of electronic ignition.

www.saabv4.com
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
810 Posts

Posted - 19 Oct 2015 :  11:51:39 Show Profile Reply with Quote
thanks guys, Melle I'm running brand new points and the correct Bosch condenser (again brand new). These were sourced when I was rebuilding the engine 15-18 years ago. I haven't tried the Pertronix (or similar) electronic ignition as I was trying to keep the car relatively original, but have met many owners of other classic cars at shows over the years who rave about the conversion....

Thanks for the clarification

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GeoffC
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
507 Posts

Posted - 19 Oct 2015 :  13:05:44 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Fitted this system to my Sonett and it improved starting and idled better plus there is no external box so still looks standard.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-95-AccuSpark-Electronic-Ignition-red-Sports-Coil-/170703857555?hash=item27bebe2793
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
810 Posts

Posted - 19 Oct 2015 :  18:27:53 Show Profile Reply with Quote
oooh thanks Geoff and Christmas is just around the corner!!!! (although my wife would have no interest in buying this as a present....)
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Zagato
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
816 Posts

Posted - 19 Oct 2015 :  20:06:01 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Accuspark on mine also, much better running.

I wonder why there are different coils, the later models had a higher alternater output maybe it is that!

1977 96L Opal Green
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serge
Starting Member

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 22 Oct 2015 :  23:05:44 Show Profile Reply with Quote
FWIW (little), I am running the Pertronix distributor kit on my '71 96, and I think it's fantastic. I went with the Pertronix "Flame Thrower" coil also. The coil allows for a bit wider gap, and with good quality wires, seems to have made a huge difference in running and starting. Oh, and never to gap points again...
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James Ranaldi
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
1475 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2015 :  09:02:46 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Pertronix on mine too

1968 V4, LHD
1984 99 GL
1992 900i Convertible
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
810 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2015 :  11:48:05 Show Profile Reply with Quote
thanks guys, I bought a part-number-matched coil from our local Canadian Tire (due to time, they could get the Bosch one in but it would have to come from Germany!!!) engine was running much better, but my mechanic friend thinks we may need to re-gap the rockers (the engine has been sat for nearly 20 years, so he thinks the springs may have given a little)

Annoyingly though my heater valve has sprung a leak (I checked it when rebuilding, but probably didn't have enough pressure in it) so now I need a working one of those, if anyone has one, please let me know (i'll post on Parts Wanted too) not the easiest part to get back out of a rebuilt car!!!!
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Woody
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2878 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2015 :  12:57:54 Show Profile Reply with Quote
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-E-TYPE-Series-3-XKE-Series-3-HEATER-VALVE-C34691-/272018313526?hash=item3f558e1136:g:Z5cAAOSwI-BWISWR

you have to change the orientation see my project or search heater valve
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stevebod
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
439 Posts

Posted - 25 Oct 2015 :  06:57:40 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I've been having heater valve trouble for some time and don't have the funds for a nice new thermostatic unit. After several strip downs mine has become unreliable.

I ended up plumbing in one of these which is a universal heater valve, as used on TX1 taxi's.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inline-Heater-Control-Valve-and-cable-for-classic-car-kit-car-or-Taxi-TX1-NEW-/301768300756?hash=item4642cad8d4:g:DnAAAOSw~bFWHq7e

It works well with the original cable but of course is not a nice as the original or as neat under the bonnet. I am away on business at the moment, but can take pictures if you're interested. The modification is also reversible.
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
810 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2015 :  09:58:38 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Thanks Steve
I would be interested to see how you fitted it, I have found a diaphragm repair kit kit on eBay for $40CDN, seems to be a very rare part (odd, given the Ranco valve was fitted to dozens of American cars)
Mine came apart as per Woody's instructions so waiting for the "most expensive rubber I every bought" to arrive and I'll put all back together and hope for the best!!!
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ianh
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
250 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2015 :  10:41:24 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hi the link I sent you via parts wanted shows --NAPA No. 660-1000 Balkamp repair kit--they are a stock item at $9.99
Regards
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
810 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2015 :  22:09:12 Show Profile Reply with Quote
thanks Ian, Napa (US) won't post to Canada and Napa (Canada) won't stock/deal with their US parent company.....(sigh)

so stuff it, I bought the $40 eBay ones....
plus-side is, I get the "plunger" rubber too for the $40!!
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stevebod
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
439 Posts

Posted - 30 Oct 2015 :  20:14:30 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hey Matt,
In case of interest here are a couple of pictures of my new heater valve installation.
It's not pretty and I had to loop a length of hose round because I had no angled tube and didn't want to hack things around irriversably.
I had to adjust the outer cable at the dashboard end to centre the lever travel; and also had to file the pin on the lever on the valve so it was not a tight fit.
I'm not entirely sure if my hoses are plumbed the right way round generally - nor if the direction of flow through the valve is correct, but it works OK desite how it looks. I am enjoying not cooking as I drive along.



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